we need to protect them from -- >> you have a lazy black president and stupid women and the cliches that these are like out of something in the 1920s. where do they get this stuff from? >> this is all part of planet republican. i mean, they're not viewing the demographics right. they're not viewing the policies right, and their tone, they're tone deaf again and again. >> what are they up to? are they playing to the base maliciously? >> i think they're watching fox tv too much. >> who do they think they are winning with? >> rand paul won this race in kentucky by playing to the tea party base. that's how he got -- >> in a nonpresidential year. the trouble is two years from now we're looking to a nonpresidential year and it could just be what they're up to here is just riling up their base because they know that's who shows up at the pollsened and the middle of the road vote mother has had other things to think about isn't paying attention. >> it's going back to clinton bashing -- >> one last question. joy, didn't you think that the poison in the anti-hillary thing from the right that went